he respected john mccain because peace a war hero but just thinks mitt romney is an empty suit. my sense was that his advisors got to him and said you cannot let that show through in this debate because it seemed like something was holding obama back. it seemed like when i was looking down, it was almost like he was biting his lip from responding. >> rose: it seemed to me he thought it was perhaps surprised by the performance he was watching by mitt romney. john. >> he hates him more now. [laughter] >> rose: murphy, only you would say that. >> i thought the biggest difference between the two was that governor romney had a strategy and he had a plan. and he came in -- >> rose: he executed it. >> executed on it in an aggressive forceful way. president obama did not seem to have a plan, did not seem to have a strategy. seemed to be in a prevent defenses. he's been running a pretty safe campaign because he's been ahead for a while and feeling confident about where they are. he was like, looked like he was trying to stall out the clock. seemed to me like he was endure the debate more